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Re: BCL 1023 non profit application
29 messages
David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hello Seth:  I am not writing to tell you about any IRS response to the application.  However, I am finally able to at least tell you that it has been assigned to an agent.  Wow, did that take for ever or what !!!!
 
I had to call the IRS to learn of this information, but I finally got it.  We have been assigned to a guy named Mark Tomback, and his phone number is 949-389-4414.
 
In most cases, once an agent is on the case they do have some questions.  So, I am guessing that the next step will be that in a week or so we will get a letter from this guy asking a few questions.  If you get something, let me know right away.  If I get something I will let you know.
 
That's all I can report right now.
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Great news, thanks for following up with them.  I've been a little
nervous to ask.  The coop will have a contingent at NASCO, so we'll
see you there.
Best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––
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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM
To: Nina Limbeck <nlimbeck@umail.iu.edu>, Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>
FYI.  Matthew, I doubt we will get something in the PO box, but if we
do, let me know.  Free pizza free pizza free is near ...
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––





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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:55 PM
To: Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>
Here is a relatively reent update on our 1023 status.  Things are
moving, slowly, but perceptably.
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––





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From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: BCL 1023 non profit application
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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:25 AM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Cc: Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>, Nina Limbeck <nlimbeck@umail.iu.edu>, Bloomington Coop <bloomingtoncoop@gmail.com>
Hey Rosebud,
So our treasurer just informed me that we received a response from the
IRS, and that he was bravely trying to answer their questions on his
own.  I've attached a scan of their letter.  The first thing you'll
notice is that we were slow to realize we had gotten a letter, and
they expect our reply in two days.  Is there anything we can do to
extend that?  Will a phone call suffice?  Paperwork?  We actually
might be able to get answers to them in on time, in two days.  But if
we can get an extension, we'll take it.

Most of their questions are straightforward and we are comfortable
taking a stab at them.  If we get more time from them, we'll send our
answers to you to edit as you see fit and pass along at your leisure.

Thanks,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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IRS_BCL1023Response10132010 (1).pdf
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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:41 AM
To: Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>
Hey Matthew,
I threw this scan and the amended bylaws and conflict of interest
policy in a new dropbox folder called FORM1023Amendments in the folder
called Things for the State.  I'd like to put everything else in there
too, so could you merely keep things that you change in a folder and
either upload them when this is all done or zip and email them to me?
I'll do the legwork on those signatures and I'll ask around for the
membership contracts (though, actually, not all of our Directors are
current members).  You are still going to ask Alex and that filing
cabinet for the same?  Oh, also, our board is bigger than I thought.
Oops.  I'll figure out what has to be done on this end.
"
Emily M Lippold Cheney, Director
B.A. Indiana University 2008
Executive Director, Santa Barbara Student Housing Co-operative
Hours worked: 20 hr/yr

Alex Smith, Director
M.S. Indiana University 2009
Hours worked: 20hr/yr

Seth Frey, Director
Ph.D. Indiana University, Working
Hours worked: 20hr/yr

Lisa Schelling, Director
M.S. Indiana University, Working
Hours Worked: 20hr/yr

Matthew Haselton, Director
M.S. Indiana University, Working
Hours Worked: 20hr/yr

Lydia Comer, Director
B.A. Indiana University, Working
Hours Worked: 20hr/yr

Elliot Hayden, Director
M.S. Indiana University, Working
Hours Worked: 20hr/yr

Devin Mawdsley, Director
M.A. Indiana University, Working
Hours Worked: 20hr/yr
"
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––





---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: BCL 1023 non profit application
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David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:35 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Cc: bloomingtoncoop@gmail.com, mhaselto@umail.iu.edu, nlimbeck@umail.iu.edu
Hi Seth, and others:
 
First of all, extensions to reply are very common.  I have put in a phone call to the agent, asking for an extension.  Just got voice mail, but I'll let you know.  I asked that he give us until November 15th. 
 
Please do get me your draft answer so we can look at it together.  It is important to get the answer just right, since that is what will get you the status or result in a problem.
 
The questions, while somewhat strange, do not ask anything troubling.  So that is encouraging. 
 
I'll wait to see your draft answers, and I'll let you know as soon as I hear about the extension.
 
Finally, we got something going !!
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/01/10 12:25AM >>>
Hey Rosebud,
So our treasurer just informed me that we received a response from the
IRS, and that he was bravely trying to answer their questions on his
own.  I've attached a scan of their letter.  The first thing you'll
notice is that we were slow to realize we had gotten a letter, and
they expect our reply in two days.  Is there anything we can do to
extend that?  Will a phone call suffice?  Paperwork?  We actually
might be able to get answers to them in on time, in two days.  But if
we can get an extension, we'll take it.

Most of their questions are straightforward and we are comfortable
taking a stab at them.  If we get more time from them, we'll send our
answers to you to edit as you see fit and pass along at your leisure.

Thanks,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Great news, thanks for following up with them. Ā I've been a little
> nervous to ask. Ā The coop will have a contingent at NASCO, so we'll
> see you there.
> Best,
> seth.
>
> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
> –– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
>> Hello Seth:Ā  I am not writing to tell you about any IRS response to the
>> application.Ā  However, I am finally able to at least tell you that it has
>> been assigned to an agent.Ā  Wow, did that take for ever or what !!!!
>>
>> I had to call the IRS to learn of this information, but I finally got it.
>> We have been assigned to a guy named Mark Tomback, and his phone number is
>> 949-389-4414.
>>
>> In most cases, once an agent is on the case they do have some questions.
>> So, I am guessing that the next step will be that in a week or so we will
>> get a letter from this guy asking a few questions.Ā  If you get something,
>> let me know right away.Ā  If I get something I will let you know.
>>
>> That's all I can report right now.
>>
>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>> Madison, WIĀ  53703
>> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
>> fax: 608-250-4370
>

David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hi Seth:   Just got off the phone with the IRS agent.  He gave us a two week extension.  So now our deadline is Wednesday November 17th.  Also, we can simply fax him the response on that day.
 
So, do get me the draft set of replies to look at.  Clearly we can wait until after Nasco Institute if you want.  See you very soon.
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:41 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Hey Rosebud,
I was hoping to get you the complete packet today, but I'm still
waiting to get the last signatures in the mail. After they come, I
have to sign and scan a few things, but everything is written.  So in
the meantime, everything is pretty much available for review in this
folder on dropbox.com:
My Dropbox » Bloomington Cooperative Living, Inc » Things for The
State » FORM1023 Amendments
Your login to that site is probably sparer@herricklaw.net

The main document in the clarification is
FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_02.doc .  A copy of their response is this
document in the folder: IRS_BCL1023Response10132010.pdf . The rest of
the documents in that folder are supporting materials referenced in
our clarification.

Here are the last things to do.  If the right things come in the mail
on time, I hope to have these done by tomorrow afternoon:
*Scan up a single board member’s contract
*Sign and scan the unsigned statement of compliance with income limits
*Scan submit signed bylaws
*Scan submit signed conflict of interest policy

Thanks,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:38 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hi Seth:  Looks good so far.  I have one suggested change, perhaps.  I answer to the IRS's question # 9, about board members are also coop members - one point that I think you should add is to clarify that individuals are first approved as members and then from among the members various officers and board members are chosen.  It is never the case that a person would be a board member or officer, without ever having lived there, and then because of the person's officer status, they are allowed to live in one of the houses.  Living in the houses is NOT a benefit of being an officer or board member. 
 
To the extent this is true, which I figure it is, just add a little bit to clarify that point.
 
Otherwise, I'll just wait to hear that the final items are uploaded to drop box, and then I'll put it together and get it to the IRS guy.  Tuesday is better for me than Wednesday, if you can pull that off.
 
Thanks.  Bye for now.
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/15/10 01:41PM >>>
Hey Rosebud,
I was hoping to get you the complete packet today, but I'm still
waiting to get the last signatures in the mail. After they come, I
have to sign and scan a few things, but everything is written.  So in
the meantime, everything is pretty much available for review in this
folder on dropbox.com:
My Dropbox Ā» Bloomington Cooperative Living, Inc Ā» Things for The
State Ā» FORM1023 Amendments
Your login to that site is probably sparer@herricklaw.net

The main document in the clarification is
FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_02.doc .  A copy of their response is this
document in the folder: IRS_BCL1023Response10132010.pdf . The rest of
the documents in that folder are supporting materials referenced in
our clarification.

Here are the last things to do.  If the right things come in the mail
on time, I hope to have these done by tomorrow afternoon:
*Scan up a single board member’s contract
*Sign and scan the unsigned statement of compliance with income limits
*Scan submit signed bylaws
*Scan submit signed conflict of interest policy

Thanks,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
> Hi Seth:Ā Ā  Just got off the phone with the IRS agent.Ā  He gave us a two week
> extension.Ā  So now our deadline is Wednesday November 17th.Ā  Also, we can
> simply fax him the response on that day.
>
> So, do get me the draft set of replies to look at.Ā  Clearly we can wait
> until after Nasco Institute if you want.Ā  See you very soon.
>
> Rosebud
>
>
>
> Attorney David R. Sparer
> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
> Madison, WIĀ  53703
> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
> fax: 608-250-4370

David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:00 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hi Seth:  Our response is due tomorrow and I have a mediation which starts at 12:30 on the other side of town.  So I need to get your stuff together and filed before lunch.  Just giving you a heads up.
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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:10 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Thanks David, I'll check the mail again for the last parts of the
submission.  If they haven't arrived yet it will be hard for us to
make the deadline.  I'll write you in the morning, either with the
completed packet, or to let you know that vital parts are still in the
mail.  If the latter, can we get another extension?  Sorry to push
this to the edge.
best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Don't worry if we don't have a few pieces.  What we can do is submit what we have, which is most of it.  Indicate that the other things have been approved, but are circulating for signature, and just have not yet arrived.  AND we promise to get them in as quick as we get them ourselves.
 
I'm off to home and cooking, but will check in tomorrow morning, and we'll get together as much as we can.
 
I'm sure it will be fine.
 
Have a good evening.
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/16/10 04:10PM >>>
Thanks David, I'll check the mail again for the last parts of the
submission.  If they haven't arrived yet it will be hard for us to
make the deadline.  I'll write you in the morning, either with the
completed packet, or to let you know that vital parts are still in the
mail.  If the latter, can we get another extension?  Sorry to push
this to the edge.
best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:00 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
> Hi Seth:  Our response is due tomorrow and I have a mediation which starts
> at 12:30 on the other side of town.  So I need to get your stuff together
> and filed before lunch.  Just giving you a heads up.
>
>
>
>
> Attorney David R. Sparer
> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
> Madison, WI  53703
> phone:  608-257-1369
> fax: 608-250-4370
>
>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/15/10 01:41PM >>>
> Hey Rosebud,
> I was hoping to get you the complete packet today, but I'm still
> waiting to get the last signatures in the mail. After they come, I
> have to sign and scan a few things, but everything is written.  So in
> the meantime, everything is pretty much available for review in this
> folder on dropbox.com:
> My Dropbox Ā» Bloomington Cooperative Living, Inc Ā» Things for The
> State Ā» FORM1023 Amendments
> Your login to that site is probably sparer@herricklaw.net
>
> The main document in the clarification is
> FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_02.doc .  A copy of their response is this
> document in the folder: IRS_BCL1023Response10132010.pdf . The rest of
> the documents in that folder are supporting materials referenced in
> our clarification.
>
> Here are the last things to do.  If the right things come in the mail
> on time, I hope to have these done by tomorrow afternoon:
> *Scan up a single board member’s contract
> *Sign and scan the unsigned statement of compliance with income limits
> *Scan submit signed bylaws
> *Scan submit signed conflict of interest policy
>
> Thanks,
> seth.
>
> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
> –– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
>> Hi Seth:Ā Ā  Just got off the phone with the IRS agent.Ā  He gave us a two
>> week
>> extension.Ā  So now our deadline is Wednesday November 17th.Ā  Also, we
>> can
>> simply fax him the response on that day.
>>
>> So, do get me the draft set of replies to look at.Ā  Clearly we can wait
>> until after Nasco Institute if you want.Ā  See you very soon.
>>
>> Rosebud
>>
>>
>>
>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>> Madison, WIĀ  53703
>> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
>> fax: 608-250-4370
>

Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:25 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Hey Rosebud,
Those docs came in late, but they came.  I got everything signed,
uploaded, annotated and ordered.  In the dropbox folder you'll find
the IRS's letter, the main document
("DG_FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_03.doc") and the supporting documents
after all that.  They are named alphabetically in the order they are
cited, and they are referenced in the main document by the first words
at the top of each one, usually the title.  You can ignore everything
in the XX_scraps folder.

http://dropbox.com

We do allow our board members to not have been residents, but we
membership them first, and I made that all clear in the answer to #9.

If anything needs to be touched up, you can do it, or you can let me
know.  I'll watch for email from you tomorrow morning, and I can
prioritize a fast turnaround over my other obligations.

Thanks again,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Hey Rosebud, I just want to make sure that we got the documents in,
and that everything looked okay.
Best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:37 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Yes indeed and I faxed it all to the IRS guy today.    It looks good. I expect a somewhat rapid turn around.  I'll keep you posted.
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/17/10 02:46PM >>>
Hey Rosebud, I just want to make sure that we got the documents in,
and that everything looked okay.
Best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Hey Rosebud,
> Those docs came in late, but they came.  I got everything signed,
> uploaded, annotated and ordered.  In the dropbox folder you'll find
> the IRS's letter, the main document
> ("DG_FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_03.doc") and the supporting documents
> after all that.  They are named alphabetically in the order they are
> cited, and they are referenced in the main document by the first words
> at the top of each one, usually the title.  You can ignore everything
> in the XX_scraps folder.
>
> http://dropbox.com
>
> We do allow our board members to not have been residents, but we
> membership them first, and I made that all clear in the answer to #9.
>
> If anything needs to be touched up, you can do it, or you can let me
> know.  I'll watch for email from you tomorrow morning, and I can
> prioritize a fast turnaround over my other obligations.
>
> Thanks again,
> seth.
>
> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
> –– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
>> Don't worry if we don't have a few pieces.  What we can do is submit what we
>> have, which is most of it.  Indicate that the other things have been
>> approved, but are circulating for signature, and just have not yet arrived.
>> AND we promise to get them in as quick as we get them ourselves.
>>
>> I'm off to home and cooking, but will check in tomorrow morning, and we'll
>> get together as much as we can.
>>
>> I'm sure it will be fine.
>>
>> Have a good evening.
>>
>> Rosebud
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>> Madison, WI  53703
>> phone:  608-257-1369
>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>
>>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/16/10 04:10PM >>>
>> Thanks David, I'll check the mail again for the last parts of the
>> submission.  If they haven't arrived yet it will be hard for us to
>> make the deadline.  I'll write you in the morning, either with the
>> completed packet, or to let you know that vital parts are still in the
>> mail.  If the latter, can we get another extension?  Sorry to push
>> this to the edge.
>> best,
>> seth.
>>
>> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
>> –– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:00 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Seth:  Our response is due tomorrow and I have a mediation which
>>> starts
>>> at 12:30 on the other side of town.  So I need to get your stuff together
>>> and filed before lunch.  Just giving you a heads up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>>> Madison, WI  53703
>>> phone:  608-257-1369
>>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>>
>>>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/15/10 01:41PM >>>
>>> Hey Rosebud,
>>> I was hoping to get you the complete packet today, but I'm still
>>> waiting to get the last signatures in the mail. After they come, I
>>> have to sign and scan a few things, but everything is written.  So in
>>> the meantime, everything is pretty much available for review in this
>>> folder on dropbox.com:
>>> My Dropbox Ā» Bloomington Cooperative Living, Inc Ā» Things for The
>>> State Ā» FORM1023 Amendments
>>> Your login to that site is probably sparer@herricklaw.net
>>>
>>> The main document in the clarification is
>>> FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_02.doc .  A copy of their response is this
>>> document in the folder: IRS_BCL1023Response10132010.pdf . The rest of
>>> the documents in that folder are supporting materials referenced in
>>> our clarification.
>>>
>>> Here are the last things to do.  If the right things come in the mail
>>> on time, I hope to have these done by tomorrow afternoon:
>>> *Scan up a single board member’s contract
>>> *Sign and scan the unsigned statement of compliance with income limits
>>> *Scan submit signed bylaws
>>> *Scan submit signed conflict of interest policy
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> seth.
>>>
>>> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana
>>> University
>>> –– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Seth:Ā Ā  Just got off the phone with the IRS agent.Ā  He gave us a
>>>> two
>>>> week
>>>> extension.Ā  So now our deadline is Wednesday November 17th.Ā  Also, we
>>>> can
>>>> simply fax him the response on that day.
>>>>
>>>> So, do get me the draft set of replies to look at.Ā  Clearly we can wait
>>>> until after Nasco Institute if you want.Ā  See you very soon.
>>>>
>>>> Rosebud
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>>>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>>>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>>>> Madison, WIĀ  53703
>>>> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
>>>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>>
>>
>

David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:36 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Greetings Seth:
 
I just wanted to get you a copy of this letter.  This is the cover letter which I sent when I faxed everything to the IRS person.
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

ltr to IRS 101117 with answers.pdf
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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:09 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Thanks Rosebud, We're looking forward to the (hopefully good) news.
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:11 AM
To: David Zuckerman <dhz4488@umd.edu>

seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––



Forwarded conversation
Subject: Re: BCL 1023 non profit application
------------------------

From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu


Hello Seth:  I am not writing to tell you about any IRS response to the application.  However, I am finally able to at least tell you that it has been assigned to an agent.  Wow, did that take for ever or what !!!!
 
I had to call the IRS to learn of this information, but I finally got it.  We have been assigned to a guy named Mark Tomback, and his phone number is 949-389-4414.
 
In most cases, once an agent is on the case they do have some questions.  So, I am guessing that the next step will be that in a week or so we will get a letter from this guy asking a few questions.  If you get something, let me know right away.  If I get something I will let you know.
 
That's all I can report right now.
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

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From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:27 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>


Great news, thanks for following up with them.  I've been a little
nervous to ask.  The coop will have a contingent at NASCO, so we'll
see you there.
Best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––

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From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM
To: Nina Limbeck <nlimbeck@umail.iu.edu>, Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>


FYI.  Matthew, I doubt we will get something in the PO box, but if we
do, let me know.  Free pizza free pizza free is near ...

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From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:55 PM
To: Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>


Here is a relatively reent update on our 1023 status.  Things are
moving, slowly, but perceptably.

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From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:25 AM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Cc: Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>, Nina Limbeck <nlimbeck@umail.iu.edu>, Bloomington Coop <bloomingtoncoop@gmail.com>


Hey Rosebud,
So our treasurer just informed me that we received a response from the
IRS, and that he was bravely trying to answer their questions on his
own.  I've attached a scan of their letter.  The first thing you'll
notice is that we were slow to realize we had gotten a letter, and
they expect our reply in two days.  Is there anything we can do to
extend that?  Will a phone call suffice?  Paperwork?  We actually
might be able to get answers to them in on time, in two days.  But if
we can get an extension, we'll take it.

Most of their questions are straightforward and we are comfortable
taking a stab at them.  If we get more time from them, we'll send our
answers to you to edit as you see fit and pass along at your leisure.

Thanks,

----------
From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:41 AM
To: Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>

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From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:35 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Cc: bloomingtoncoop@gmail.com, mhaselto@umail.iu.edu, nlimbeck@umail.iu.edu


Hi Seth, and others:
 
First of all, extensions to reply are very common.  I have put in a phone call to the agent, asking for an extension.  Just got voice mail, but I'll let you know.  I asked that he give us until November 15th. 
 
Please do get me your draft answer so we can look at it together.  It is important to get the answer just right, since that is what will get you the status or result in a problem.
 
The questions, while somewhat strange, do not ask anything troubling.  So that is encouraging. 
 
I'll wait to see your draft answers, and I'll let you know as soon as I hear about the extension.
 
Finally, we got something going !!
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
 
 
>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/01/10 12:25AM >>>–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––> Great news, thanks for following up with them.  I've been a little
> nervous to ask.  The coop will have a contingent at NASCO, so we'll> –– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––>> Hello Seth:  I am not writing to tell you about any IRS response to the
>> application.Ā  However, I am finally able to at least tell you that it has
>> been assigned to an agent.Ā  Wow, did that take for ever or what !!!!>> get a letter from this guy asking a few questions.Ā  If you get something,
>> let me know right away.Ā  If I get something I will let you know.>> Madison, WIĀ  53703
>> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
>> fax: 608-250-4370
>

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From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:28 AM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu


Hi Seth:   Just got off the phone with the IRS agent.  He gave us a two week extension.  So now our deadline is Wednesday November 17th.  Also, we can simply fax him the response on that day.
 
So, do get me the draft set of replies to look at.  Clearly we can wait until after Nasco Institute if you want.  See you very soon.

----------
From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:41 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>


Hey Rosebud,
I was hoping to get you the complete packet today, but I'm still
waiting to get the last signatures in the mail. After they come, I
have to sign and scan a few things, but everything is written.  So in
the meantime, everything is pretty much available for review in this
folder on dropbox.com:
My Dropbox » Bloomington Cooperative Living, Inc » Things for The
State » FORM1023 Amendments
Your login to that site is probably sparer@herricklaw.net

The main document in the clarification is
FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_02.doc .  A copy of their response is this
document in the folder: IRS_BCL1023Response10132010.pdf . The rest of
the documents in that folder are supporting materials referenced in
our clarification.

Here are the last things to do.  If the right things come in the mail
on time, I hope to have these done by tomorrow afternoon:
*Scan up a single board member’s contract
*Sign and scan the unsigned statement of compliance with income limits
*Scan submit signed bylaws
*Scan submit signed conflict of interest policy

----------
From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:38 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu


Hi Seth:  Looks good so far.  I have one suggested change, perhaps.  I answer to the IRS's question # 9, about board members are also coop members - one point that I think you should add is to clarify that individuals are first approved as members and then from among the members various officers and board members are chosen.  It is never the case that a person would be a board member or officer, without ever having lived there, and then because of the person's officer status, they are allowed to live in one of the houses.  Living in the houses is NOT a benefit of being an officer or board member. 
 
To the extent this is true, which I figure it is, just add a little bit to clarify that point.
 
Otherwise, I'll just wait to hear that the final items are uploaded to drop box, and then I'll put it together and get it to the IRS guy.  Tuesday is better for me than Wednesday, if you can pull that off.
 
Thanks.  Bye for now.
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
 
>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/15/10 01:41PM >>>My Dropbox Ā» Bloomington Cooperative Living, Inc Ā» Things for The
State » FORM1023 Amendments*Scan up a single board member’s contract> Hi Seth:   Just got off the phone with the IRS agent.  He gave us a two week
> extension.Ā  So now our deadline is Wednesday November 17th.Ā  Also, we can> So, do get me the draft set of replies to look at.Ā  Clearly we can wait
> until after Nasco Institute if you want.Ā  See you very soon.> Madison, WIĀ  53703
> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
> fax: 608-250-4370

----------
From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:00 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu


Hi Seth:  Our response is due tomorrow and I have a mediation which starts at 12:30 on the other side of town.  So I need to get your stuff together and filed before lunch.  Just giving you a heads up.

----------
From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 5:10 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>


Thanks David, I'll check the mail again for the last parts of the
submission.  If they haven't arrived yet it will be hard for us to
make the deadline.  I'll write you in the morning, either with the
completed packet, or to let you know that vital parts are still in the
mail.  If the latter, can we get another extension?  Sorry to push
this to the edge.
best,

----------
From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 6:14 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu


Don't worry if we don't have a few pieces.  What we can do is submit what we have, which is most of it.  Indicate that the other things have been approved, but are circulating for signature, and just have not yet arrived.  AND we promise to get them in as quick as we get them ourselves.
 
I'm off to home and cooking, but will check in tomorrow morning, and we'll get together as much as we can.
 
I'm sure it will be fine.
 
Have a good evening.
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
 
>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/16/10 04:10PM >>>> Hi Seth:  Our response is due tomorrow and I have a mediation which starts
> at 12:30 on the other side of town.  So I need to get your stuff together
> and filed before lunch.  Just giving you a heads up.> Madison, WI  53703
> phone:  608-257-1369> have to sign and scan a few things, but everything is written.  So in> FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_02.doc .  A copy of their response is this> Here are the last things to do.  If the right things come in the mail>> Hi Seth:Ā Ā  Just got off the phone with the IRS agent.Ā  He gave us a two
>> week
>> extension.Ā  So now our deadline is Wednesday November 17th.Ā  Also, we>> So, do get me the draft set of replies to look at.Ā  Clearly we can wait
>> until after Nasco Institute if you want.Ā  See you very soon.>> Madison, WIĀ  53703
>> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
>> fax: 608-250-4370
>

----------
From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:25 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>


Hey Rosebud,
Those docs came in late, but they came.  I got everything signed,
uploaded, annotated and ordered.  In the dropbox folder you'll find
the IRS's letter, the main document
("DG_FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_03.doc") and the supporting documents
after all that.  They are named alphabetically in the order they are
cited, and they are referenced in the main document by the first words
at the top of each one, usually the title.  You can ignore everything
in the XX_scraps folder.

http://dropbox.com

We do allow our board members to not have been residents, but we
membership them first, and I made that all clear in the answer to #9.

If anything needs to be touched up, you can do it, or you can let me
know.  I'll watch for email from you tomorrow morning, and I can
prioritize a fast turnaround over my other obligations.

Thanks again,

----------
From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:46 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>


Hey Rosebud, I just want to make sure that we got the documents in,
and that everything looked okay.
Best,

----------
From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:37 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu


Yes indeed and I faxed it all to the IRS guy today.    It looks good. I expect a somewhat rapid turn around.  I'll keep you posted.
 
Rosebud
 
 
 
 
>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/17/10 02:46PM >>>> Those docs came in late, but they came.  I got everything signed,
> uploaded, annotated and ordered.  In the dropbox folder you'll find> after all that.  They are named alphabetically in the order they are> at the top of each one, usually the title.  You can ignore everything> know.  I'll watch for email from you tomorrow morning, and I can>> Don't worry if we don't have a few pieces.  What we can do is submit what we
>> have, which is most of it.  Indicate that the other things have been>> submission.  If they haven't arrived yet it will be hard for us to
>> make the deadline.  I'll write you in the morning, either with the>> mail.  If the latter, can we get another extension?  Sorry to push>>> Hi Seth:  Our response is due tomorrow and I have a mediation which
>>> starts
>>> at 12:30 on the other side of town.  So I need to get your stuff together
>>> and filed before lunch.  Just giving you a heads up.>>> Madison, WI  53703
>>> phone:  608-257-1369>>> have to sign and scan a few things, but everything is written.  So in>>> FORM1023AmendmentsNov2010_02.doc .  A copy of their response is this>>> Here are the last things to do.  If the right things come in the mail>>>> Hi Seth:Ā Ā  Just got off the phone with the IRS agent.Ā  He gave us a
>>>> two
>>>> week
>>>> extension.Ā  So now our deadline is Wednesday November 17th.Ā  Also, we>>>> So, do get me the draft set of replies to look at.Ā  Clearly we can wait
>>>> until after Nasco Institute if you want.Ā  See you very soon.>>>> Madison, WIĀ  53703
>>>> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
>>>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>>
>>
>

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From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:36 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu


Greetings Seth:
 
I just wanted to get you a copy of this letter.  This is the cover letter which I sent when I faxed everything to the IRS person.

----------
From: Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu>
Date: Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:09 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>


Thanks Rosebud, We're looking forward to the (hopefully good) news.



2 attachments
IRS_BCL1023Response10132010 (1).pdf
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ltr to IRS 101117 with answers.pdf
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David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:32 AM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hi Seth:
 
The IRS guy called end of last week and said he had additional questions, and then in the mail I just got a two page list of questions, with 10 questions.  Did you get it too.  If not, let me know, and I will e-mail you a pdf copy.
 
He has a response date of Dec 16th. All the questions are just that, questions.  So we should be able to answer them on time.  However, I am certain he will give us a bit of extra time if I ask.
 
Soooo - let me know and we should work up these answers.
 
I will note that when I talked to him I brought up with him whether it would help him to see a list of other housing coops, that are essentially the same, that have already been granted c3 status.  He said it would help him.  So, I will compile that list, since I have a pretty long one.  That is not one of the questions, or requests, but we can just add that in.
 
Talk with ya soon.    Rosebud
 
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/18/10 02:09PM >>>
Thanks Rosebud, We're looking forward to the (hopefully good) news.
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:36 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
> Greetings Seth:
>
> I just wanted to get you a copy of this letter.  This is the cover letter
> which I sent when I faxed everything to the IRS person.
>
>
>
> Attorney David R. Sparer
> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
> Madison, WI  53703
> phone:  608-257-1369
> fax: 608-250-4370

Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM
To: Matthew Haselton <mhaselto@umail.iu.edu>
More from the PO Box.  We can get the next round of IRS questions from
there, or have Rosebud charge us $30 out of our retainer to scan it
for us.  Would it be easier if I checked the box?  Are there keys to
go around?
Best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––





---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Date: Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:32 AM
Subject: Re: BCL 1023 non profit application
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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Thanks Rosebud, that is a huge bummer.  We'll get into the PO Box and
back to work.  I'll let you know if the docs are not in there and need
to be scanned in from your end.
Best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:49 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
I won't be able to get into the PO Box soon.  Could you scan/send the followup.
Thanks,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:33 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hi Seth:  Please find a copy attached.
 
I must also say that there are a few questions where I just don't see what he is getting at.  I mean I understand the question, but I can't see why he would ask it.  Some are really similar to, why did you paint the window trim light blue?  Well, we could answer, of course, but why is he asking this question.  It may be worthwhile having me call him to ask what he has in mind.
 
Anyhow, here's a few comments right now:
 
Question 1)  I think that his long recitation is correct.  The question about "subsets of your organization," I figure is just because each house has a level of autonomy, but is never the less part of the overall organization.  Not really anything more.  Right?  Who collects the rent, easy enough to answer.
 
Question 2, and 3)  I presume these are simple to answer.
 
Question 4)  Easy enough to describe the membership of the board of directors and what role the board has, compared to the membership itself.
 
Question 5 & 6)   Again, I believe these are easy to answer.
 
Question 7)  This can be a critical one.  He just must not be the smartest character.  Answer would be, no member has equity interest - this is a non-profit.  When a member leaves, they do not "sell their membership" to anyone.  They simply leave, and get back their security deposit, less any damage claims.  Period.  Is this right?
 
Question 8)  This is the one that makes no sense to me.  I feel I may need to call him and ask what the heck he is thinking.  This is like the application I did for the local Zen Dojo - and the IRS asked the question "What is Zen?" 
 
Question 9 & 10)  When I talked to him on the phone I explained a bit to him about how Nasco operates.  We will have to put it into writing, of course.  However, I think he was satisfied.  Let me know if you want help with these ones.
 
So, I'm presuming that you will write up answers and then run it by me.  Correct?  As noted earlier, I am sure I can ask him for an extra week, and he would agree.  Should I?
 
Bye for now, Rosebud
 
 
 
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 12/08/10 08:49PM >>>
I won't be able to get into the PO Box soon.  Could you scan/send the followup.
Thanks,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> wrote:
> Thanks Rosebud, that is a huge bummer. Ā We'll get into the PO Box and
> back to work. Ā I'll let you know if the docs are not in there and need
> to be scanned in from your end.
> Best,
> seth.
>
> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
> –– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:32 AM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
>> Hi Seth:
>>
>> The IRS guy called end of last week and said he had additional questions,
>> and then in the mail I just got a two page list of questions, with 10
>> questions.Ā  Did you get it too.Ā  If not, let me know, and I will e-mail you
>> a pdf copy.
>>
>> He has a response date of Dec 16th. All the questions are just that,
>> questions.Ā  So we should be able to answer them on time.Ā  However, I am
>> certain he will give us a bit of extra time if I ask.
>>
>> Soooo - let me know and we should work up these answers.
>>
>> I will note that when I talked to him I brought up with him whether it would
>> help him to see a list of other housing coops, that are essentially the
>> same, that have already been granted c3 status.Ā  He said it would help him.
>> So, I will compile that list, since I have a pretty long one.Ā  That is not
>> one of the questions, or requests, but we can just add that in.
>>
>> Talk with ya soon.Ā Ā Ā  Rosebud
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>> Madison, WIĀ  53703
>> phone:Ā  608-257-1369
>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>
>>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/18/10 02:09PM >>>
>> Thanks Rosebud, We're looking forward to the (hopefully good) news.
>> seth.
>>
>> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
>> –– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:36 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
>>> Greetings Seth:
>>>
>>> I just wanted to get you a copy of this letter.  This is the cover letter
>>> which I sent when I faxed everything to the IRS person.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>>> Madison, WI  53703
>>> phone:  608-257-1369
>>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>
>

0061.pdf
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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:37 PM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Thanks Rosebud.  I'm not 100%, but this is what I have.  I've attached
an attempt at responses, and one attachment: the lease for our third
house as a part of question 3.

Q. 333333333333333333333

A little worried here.  Should I dig up a signed copy of that third
lease?  Are they evaluating us on the state of the coop when we
submitted in March, or on what we are now.  Are they interested in
what contracts we Were in or Are in?

Q. 444444444444444444444
4. Do members have complete control of your organization?  If not,
please explain.  If members do not have complete control of your
organization, who has control?

Your advice was:
> Question 4)  Easy enough to describe the membership of the board of
> directors and what role the board has, compared to the membership itself.

My best stab is:
The members do not have complete control of the organization.  They
may not change the bylaws or the articles of incorporation.  These are
among the responsibilities of the Board of Directors.  The Board also
delegates responsibility to the membership to (a) carry out the
purposes of the cooperative, as expressed in its Articles of
Incorporation and Bylaws, (b) develop internal policy and manage the
organization's programs, property, and funds.  The Board oversees the
execution of these responsibilities.

Does our answer to Q.4 make you flinch?  Are there other typical roles
of a board of directors that I would be remiss to forget?  The
Articles say this:
"""
BOARD OF DIRECTORS
Section 3: Functions
A. Carry out general purposes of the Co-operative as expressed in its
Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws.
B. Make policy for the Co-operative and exercise managerial control
over the Co-operative's programs, property, and funds.
C. Delegate authority to and reviews performance of corporate subdivisions.
"""

As for the Bylaws,  I found this awkward bit which seems to contradict
what we are saying about house meetings, vs. general meetings, vs.
board meetings:
"3.2 The board will be the sole decision making entity within the cooperative."

Should we do something about that, or is there a way of interpreting
it so that it isn't a problem?


Q. 888888888888888888
> and the IRS asked the question
> "What is Zen?"

The Monk Mayo asked this question of the Sixth patriarch: "What is
Zen?" the Patriarch replied that, "when your mind is not dwelling on
the dualism of good and evil, what is your original face before you
were born?"

Please please tell me that that is what you told the IRS.


Qs. 9999999999999999999 and 10101010101010101010
I made a stab at nine and ten.


I'm happy to incorporate any of your suggestions before sending this
along.  It is a big relief that this round of questions had no less
running around or digging through  our cavernous filing cabinet for
ancient bills.

seth.


Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




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David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:46 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hi Seth.  Looks like it might be perfect.  I'll double check Monday and get back to you then.  Have a good weekend.
 
As to the answer to the Zen question - you better believe we wanted wanted wanted to say something like that.  Oh we sure did.  We opted for a straight and narrow bureaucratic IRS type answer, and got the exempt status.  Pretty wild though, eh?
 
 
Got to get home now, quick dinner, then off to weekly Zen Sangha sitting meeting.
 
Bye for now
Rosebud


>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 12/09/10 05:37PM >>>
Thanks Rosebud.  I'm not 100%, but this is what I have.  I've attached
an attempt at responses, and one attachment: the lease for our third
house as a part of question 3.

Q. 333333333333333333333

A little worried here.  Should I dig up a signed copy of that third
lease?  Are they evaluating us on the state of the coop when we
submitted in March, or on what we are now.  Are they interested in
what contracts we Were in or Are in?

Q. 444444444444444444444
4. Do members have complete control of your organization?  If not,
please explain.  If members do not have complete control of your
organization, who has control?

Your advice was:
> Question 4)  Easy enough to describe the membership of the board of
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â â http://enfascination.com â â http://bloomingtoncoop.org â â




On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:33 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
> Hi Seth:  Please find a copy attached.
>
> I must also say that there are a few questions where I just don't see what
> he is getting at.  I mean I understand the question, but I can't see why he
> would ask it.  Some are really similar to, why did you paint the window trim
> light blue?  Well, we could answer, of course, but why is he asking this
> question.  It may be worthwhile having me call him to ask what he has in
> mind.
>
> Anyhow, here's a few comments right now:
>
> Question 1)  I think that his long recitation is correct.  The question
> about "subsets of your organization," I figure is just because each house
> has a level of autonomy, but is never the less part of the overall
> organization.  Not really anything more.  Right?  Who collects the rent,
> easy enough to answer.
>
> Question 2, and 3)  I presume these are simple to answer.
>
> Question 4)  Easy enough to describe the membership of the board of
> directors and what role the board has, compared to the membership itself.
>
> Question 5 & 6)   Again, I believe these are easy to answer.
>
> Question 7)  This can be a critical one.  He just must not be the smartest
> character.  Answer would be, no member has equity interest - this is a
> non-profit.  When a member leaves, they do not "sell their membership" to
> anyone.  They simply leave, and get back their security deposit, less any
> damage claims.  Period.  Is this right?
>
> Question 8)  This is the one that makes no sense to me.  I feel I may need
> to call him and ask what the heck he is thinking.  This is like the
> application I did for the local Zen Dojo - and the IRS asked the question
> "What is Zen?"
>
> Question 9 & 10)  When I talked to him on the phone I explained a bit to him
> about how Nasco operates.  We will have to put it into writing, of course.
> However, I think he was satisfied.  Let me know if you want help with these
> ones.
>
> So, I'm presuming that you will write up answers and then run it by me.
> Correct?  As noted earlier, I am sure I can ask him for an extra week, and
> he would agree.  Should I?
>
> Bye for now, Rosebud
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Attorney David R. Sparer
> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
> Madison, WI  53703
> phone:  608-257-1369
> fax: 608-250-4370
>
>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 12/08/10 08:49PM >>>
> I won't be able to get into the PO Box soon.  Could you scan/send the
> followup.
> Thanks,
> seth.
>
> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
> Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://enfascination.com Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://bloomingtoncoop.org Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> wrote:
>> Thanks Rosebud, that is a huge bummer. Ä Â We'll get into the PO Box and
>> back to work. Ä Â I'll let you know if the docs are not in there and need
>> to be scanned in from your end.
>> Best,
>> seth.
>>
>> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana
>> University
>> Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://enfascination.com Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://bloomingtoncoop.org Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:32 AM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Seth:
>>>
>>> The IRS guy called end of last week and said he had additional questions,
>>> and then in the mail I just got a two page list of questions, with 10
>>> questions.Ä Â  Did you get it too.Ä Â  If not, let me know, and I will e-mail
>>> you
>>> a pdf copy.
>>>
>>> He has a response date of Dec 16th. All the questions are just that,
>>> questions.Ä Â  So we should be able to answer them on time.Ä Â  However, I am
>>> certain he will give us a bit of extra time if I ask.
>>>
>>> Soooo - let me know and we should work up these answers.
>>>
>>> I will note that when I talked to him I brought up with him whether it
>>> would
>>> help him to see a list of other housing coops, that are essentially the
>>> same, that have already been granted c3 status.Ä Â  He said it would help
>>> him.
>>> So, I will compile that list, since I have a pretty long one.Ä Â  That is
>>> not
>>> one of the questions, or requests, but we can just add that in.
>>>
>>> Talk with ya soon.Ä Â Ä Â Ä Â  Rosebud
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>>> Madison, WIÄ Â  53703
>>> phone:Ä Â  608-257-1369
>>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>>
>>>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/18/10 02:09PM >>>
>>> Thanks Rosebud, We're looking forward to the (hopefully good) news.
>>> seth.
>>>
>>> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana
>>> University
>>> Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://enfascination.com Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://bloomingtoncoop.org Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:36 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Greetings Seth:
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to get you a copy of this letter.Ä â Ä Â  This is the cover
>>>> letter
>>>> which I sent when I faxed everything to the IRS person.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>>>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>>>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>>>> Madison, WIÄ â Ä Â  53703
>>>> phone:Ä â Ä Â  608-257-1369
>>>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>>
>>
>

David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:32 PM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hi Seth:  Answers is CAPITALS below.
 
I have also attached the Answers you wrote up, with my suggested change.  Only one change. It has yellow highlight.
 
I suggest that you print out the updated version, with the addition of the signature section, saying that your answers are true and correct, and then sign that.  Then send it to me as a pdf.  I'll print it out and fax it, along with a cover letter, to the IRS guy.
 
OK?
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 12/09/10 05:37PM >>>
Thanks Rosebud.  I'm not 100%, but this is what I have.  I've attached
an attempt at responses, and one attachment: the lease for our third
house as a part of question 3.

Q. 333333333333333333333

A little worried here.  Should I dig up a signed copy of that third
lease?  Are they evaluating us on the state of the coop when we
submitted in March, or on what we are now.  Are they interested in
what contracts we Were in or Are in?
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THAT NOW.  LET THEM ASK FOR IT.
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WELL FOR NOW, THESE PROVISIONS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.  I THINK YOUR ANSWER WAS FINE.

Q. 888888888888888888
> and the IRS asked the question
> "What is Zen?"

The Monk Mayo asked this question of the Sixth patriarch: "What is
Zen?" the Patriarch replied that, "when your mind is not dwelling on
the dualism of good and evil, what is your original face before you
were born?"

Please please tell me that that is what you told the IRS.
AS I WROTE BEFORE, WE REALLY CONSIDERED AN ANSWER LIKE THAT, BUT CALMLY BREATHED IN AND OUT AND LET THAT DESIRE PASS AWAY LIKE A CLOUD IN THE SKY. 
 
THE ANSWER YOU PROVIDED IS GOOD.  A GENERAL EDUCATION FOR THE IRS ON COOPERATIVES

Qs. 9999999999999999999 and 10101010101010101010
I made a stab at nine and ten.

THOSE ANSWERS WERE GOOD.
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Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 6:04 AM
To: David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
Hey Rosebud, I did my best, but there wasn't an attachment attached
like you'd hoped.  Deadline is getting close, and I'm traveling now,
but we can try for another iteration tomorrow if you want to get me
that attachment.  Otherwise, if you just want to let fly, we need only
send this response and the copy of their letter.
best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




2010/12/15 David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>:
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David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM
To: sethfrey@indiana.edu
Hi Seth:  I see you're right, I forgot to actually attach it.  Darn.  Anyhow, I have attached it this time, and as you can see, my only change was to add one sentence to the first page.  I was able to add that sentence to what you sent me without changing the other pages.
 
The pdf attached here is the fax that I sent to the IRS.  Sent and received by the IRS at 10:25 am today.
 
So now we wait and see.  I sure hope this is his last set of questions, and he just gives you guys the status now.
 
Have a great holiday break.  Talk again in the new year for sure.
 
Bye for now, Rosebud
 
 
 
 
Attorney David R. Sparer
Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
Madison, WI  53703
phone:  608-257-1369
fax: 608-250-4370

>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 12/16/10 05:04AM >>>
Hey Rosebud, I did my best, but there wasn't an attachment attached
like you'd hoped.  Deadline is getting close, and I'm traveling now,
but we can try for another iteration tomorrow if you want to get me
that attachment.  Otherwise, if you just want to let fly, we need only
send this response and the copy of their letter.
best,
seth.

Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
–– http://enfascination.com –– http://bloomingtoncoop.org ––




2010/12/15 David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>:
> Hi Seth:  Answers is CAPITALS below.
>
> I have also attached the Answers you wrote up, with my suggested change.
> Only one change. It has yellow highlight.
>
> I suggest that you print out the updated version, with the addition of the
> signature section, saying that your answers are true and correct, and then
> sign that.  Then send it to me as a pdf.  I'll print it out and fax it,
> along with a cover letter, to the IRS guy.
>
> OK?
>
>
> Attorney David R. Sparer
> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
> Madison, WI  53703
> phone:  608-257-1369
> fax: 608-250-4370
>
>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 12/09/10 05:37PM >>>
> Thanks Rosebud.  I'm not 100%, but this is what I have.  I've attached
> an attempt at responses, and one attachment: the lease for our third
> house as a part of question 3.
>
> Q. 333333333333333333333
>
> A little worried here.  Should I dig up a signed copy of that third
> lease?  Are they evaluating us on the state of the coop when we
> submitted in March, or on what we are now.  Are they interested in
> what contracts we Were in or Are in?
> I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THAT NOW.  LET THEM ASK FOR IT.
>
> Q. 444444444444444444444
> 4. Do members have complete control of your organization?  If not,
> please explain.  If members do not have complete control of your
> organization, who has control?
>
> Your advice was:
>> Question 4)  Easy enough to describe the membership of the board of
>> directors and what role the board has, compared to the membership itself.
>
> My best stab is:
> The members do not have complete control of the organization.  They
> may not change the bylaws or the articles of incorporation.  These are
> among the responsibilities of the Board of Directors.  The Board also
> delegates responsibility to the membership to (a) carry out the
> purposes of the cooperative, as expressed in its Articles of
> Incorporation and Bylaws, (b) develop internal policy and manage the
> organization's programs, property, and funds.  The Board oversees the
> execution of these responsibilities.
>
> Does our answer to Q.4 make you flinch?  Are there other typical roles
> of a board of directors that I would be remiss to forget?  The
> Articles say this:
> """
> BOARD OF DIRECTORS
> Section 3: Functions
> A. Carry out general purposes of the Co-operative as expressed in its
> Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws.
> B. Make policy for the Co-operative and exercise managerial control
> over the Co-operative's programs, property, and funds.
> C. Delegate authority to and reviews performance of corporate subdivisions.
> """
>
> As for the Bylaws,  I found this awkward bit which seems to contradict
> what we are saying about house meetings, vs. general meetings, vs.
> board meetings:
> "3.2 The board will be the sole decision making entity within the
> cooperative."
>
> Should we do something about that, or is there a way of interpreting
> it so that it isn't a problem?
> WELL FOR NOW, THESE PROVISIONS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.  I THINK YOUR ANSWER WAS
> FINE.
>
> Q. 888888888888888888
>> and the IRS asked the question
>> "What is Zen?"
>
> The Monk Mayo asked this question of the Sixth patriarch: "What is
> Zen?" the Patriarch replied that, "when your mind is not dwelling on
> the dualism of good and evil, what is your original face before you
> were born?"
>
> Please please tell me that that is what you told the IRS.
> AS I WROTE BEFORE, WE REALLY CONSIDERED AN ANSWER LIKE THAT, BUT CALMLY
> BREATHED IN AND OUT AND LET THAT DESIRE PASS AWAY LIKE A CLOUD IN THE SKY.
>
> THE ANSWER YOU PROVIDED IS GOOD.  A GENERAL EDUCATION FOR THE IRS ON
> COOPERATIVES
>
> Qs. 9999999999999999999 and 10101010101010101010
> I made a stab at nine and ten.
>
> THOSE ANSWERS WERE GOOD.
> I'm happy to incorporate any of your suggestions before sending this
> along.  It is a big relief that this round of questions had no less
> running around or digging through  our cavernous filing cabinet for
> ancient bills.
>
> seth.
>
>
> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana University
> â â http://enfascination.com â â http://bloomingtoncoop.org â â
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 2:33 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net> wrote:
>> Hi Seth:  Please find a copy attached.
>>
>> I must also say that there are a few questions where I just don't see what
>> he is getting at.  I mean I understand the question, but I can't see why
>> he
>> would ask it.  Some are really similar to, why did you paint the window
>> trim
>> light blue?  Well, we could answer, of course, but why is he asking this
>> question.  It may be worthwhile having me call him to ask what he has in
>> mind.
>>
>> Anyhow, here's a few comments right now:
>>
>> Question 1)  I think that his long recitation is correct.  The question
>> about "subsets of your organization," I figure is just because each house
>> has a level of autonomy, but is never the less part of the overall
>> organization.  Not really anything more.  Right?  Who collects the
>> rent,
>> easy enough to answer.
>>
>> Question 2, and 3)  I presume these are simple to answer.
>>
>> Question 4)  Easy enough to describe the membership of the board of
>> directors and what role the board has, compared to the membership itself.
>>
>> Question 5 & 6)   Again, I believe these are easy to answer.
>>
>> Question 7)  This can be a critical one.  He just must not be the
>> smartest
>> character.  Answer would be, no member has equity interest - this is a
>> non-profit.  When a member leaves, they do not "sell their membership" to
>> anyone.  They simply leave, and get back their security deposit, less any
>> damage claims.  Period.  Is this right?
>>
>> Question 8)  This is the one that makes no sense to me.  I feel I may
>> need
>> to call him and ask what the heck he is thinking.  This is like the
>> application I did for the local Zen Dojo - and the IRS asked the question
>> "What is Zen?"
>>
>> Question 9 & 10)  When I talked to him on the phone I explained a bit to
>> him
>> about how Nasco operates.  We will have to put it into writing, of
>> course.
>> However, I think he was satisfied.  Let me know if you want help with
>> these
>> ones.
>>
>> So, I'm presuming that you will write up answers and then run it by me.
>> Correct?  As noted earlier, I am sure I can ask him for an extra week,
>> and
>> he would agree.  Should I?
>>
>> Bye for now, Rosebud
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>> Madison, WI  53703
>> phone:  608-257-1369
>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>
>>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 12/08/10 08:49PM >>>
>> I won't be able to get into the PO Box soon.  Could you scan/send the
>> followup.
>> Thanks,
>> seth.
>>
>> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana
>> University
>> Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://enfascination.com Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>> http://bloomingtoncoop.org Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> wrote:
>>> Thanks Rosebud, that is a huge bummer. Ä Â We'll get into the PO Box and
>>> back to work. Ä Â I'll let you know if the docs are not in there and need
>>> to be scanned in from your end.
>>> Best,
>>> seth.
>>>
>>> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana
>>> University
>>> Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://enfascination.com Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>>> http://bloomingtoncoop.org Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:32 AM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Seth:
>>>>
>>>> The IRS guy called end of last week and said he had additional
>>>> questions,
>>>> and then in the mail I just got a two page list of questions, with 10
>>>> questions.Ä Â  Did you get it too.Ä Â  If not, let me know, and I will
>>>> e-mail
>>>> you
>>>> a pdf copy.
>>>>
>>>> He has a response date of Dec 16th. All the questions are just that,
>>>> questions.Ä Â  So we should be able to answer them on time.Ä Â  However,
>>>> I am
>>>> certain he will give us a bit of extra time if I ask.
>>>>
>>>> Soooo - let me know and we should work up these answers.
>>>>
>>>> I will note that when I talked to him I brought up with him whether it
>>>> would
>>>> help him to see a list of other housing coops, that are essentially the
>>>> same, that have already been granted c3 status.Ä Â  He said it would
>>>> help
>>>> him.
>>>> So, I will compile that list, since I have a pretty long one.Ä Â  That
>>>> is
>>>> not
>>>> one of the questions, or requests, but we can just add that in.
>>>>
>>>> Talk with ya soon.Ä ÂÂ Ä ÂÂ Ä Â  Rosebud
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>>>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>>>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>>>> Madison, WIÄ Â  53703
>>>> phone:Ä Â  608-257-1369
>>>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>>>
>>>>>>> Seth Frey <sethfrey@indiana.edu> 11/18/10 02:09PM >>>
>>>> Thanks Rosebud, We're looking forward to the (hopefully good) news.
>>>> seth.
>>>>
>>>> Graduate Student, Cognitive Science and Complex Systems, Indiana
>>>> University
>>>> Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ http://enfascination.com Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>>>> http://bloomingtoncoop.org Ä â Ŧâ Ä â Ŧâ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:36 PM, David Sparer <sparer@herricklaw.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Greetings Seth:
>>>>>
>>>>> I just wanted to get you a copy of this letter.Ä â Ä Â  This is the
>>>>> cover
>>>>> letter
>>>>> which I sent when I faxed everything to the IRS person.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Attorney David R. Sparer
>>>>> Herrick & Kasdorf, LLP
>>>>> 16 N. Carroll st, suite 500
>>>>> Madison, WIÄ â Ä Â  53703
>>>>> phone:Ä â Ä Â  608-257-1369
>>>>> fax: 608-250-4370
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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